Tuesday, January 09, 2007

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Ted Sampley:

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the dessert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, we will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.

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Jefferson's Koran

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13 Comments:

At 2:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something your neo-con website will never likely mention is that the Koran Translation, Jefferson had was written by George Sale with the intention of discrediting Islam. Much like many neo-cons today.

One little known fact reported by Orientalists is that on his death bed George Sale became Muslim and asked that all copies of his translation be destroyed as it was so poorly done.

Yet today neo-cons and evangelicals use this translation to misrepresent verses.

Rather poignant that a Muslim Congressman is asked about loyalty yet no one else is. Also it is interesting to note despite Goode's outburst that others have been sworn in on books other than the bible.

What a pathetic fuss about nothing!

 
At 2:45 PM, Blogger Adam Lawson said...

Rather poignant that a Muslim Congressman is asked about loyalty yet no one else is.

Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that Muslims killed thousands of innocent Americans on September 11, 2001?

 
At 2:48 PM, Blogger Adam Lawson said...

One little known fact reported by Orientalists is that on his death bed George Sale became Muslim and asked that all copies of his translation be destroyed as it was so poorly done.

Could you provide some links that back up this claim? I haven't been able to find any so far.

 
At 6:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adam it is written by a major Christian Missionary that George Sale became Muslim and asked for all copies of his translation to be destroyed.

Samuel Zwemer (Major missionary d1905) in his book, the Moslem Christ stated:

"The difficulty with the Quran is that it is in a sense untranslatable. To imitate its rhyme and rhythm is impossible. Its beauty is altogether in its
style.

The translator, George Sale, on his death bed, declared himself a Muslim, and asked forgiveness for having put forward an weak translation of the Quran. He then asked that all copies of his translation be burned (on the
grounds of his ill feeling towards the translation he made)."

It is very clear.

Hope that helps.

 
At 6:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adam,

Don't start that stupid argument again. Americans have killed many many people of various denominations.

Muslims felt Americans were killing their brethren and siding with those killing their brethren. So this is a vicious circle.

Also don't forget Israel killed many innocent US Navy personnel somethign which neo-cons excuse and Jewish congressmen and women are not asked about their loyalty. In fact Jewish people have been convicted of spying for Israel so why isn't their loyalty questioned?

Why not because they fund the neo-con artists.

These arguments can go on and on.

Greater understanding is needed on all sides.

 
At 2:10 PM, Blogger Adam Lawson said...

Adam it is written by a major Christian Missionary that George Sale became Muslim and asked for all copies of his translation to be destroyed

Could you provide a link to back up this statement?

 
At 2:17 PM, Blogger Adam Lawson said...

Americans have killed many many people of various denominations.

When did Americans fly airplanes into buildings in Islamic countries killing innocent Muslilms?

Muslims felt Americans were killing their brethren and siding with those killing their brethren.

Exactly where were Americans killing the "brethren" of the Muslims?

In fact Jewish people have been convicted of spying for Israel so why isn't their loyalty questioned?

As far as I am aware, Jews have never intentionally crashed airplanes into buildings in the United States.

Greater understanding is needed on all sides.

No, what is needed is for Muslims to stop using their sick religion in order to justify the murders of non-Muslims.

 
At 2:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sick religion is the one in the USA which has wiped out entire races of people.

You thick yanks reduce debate to points that suit you.

Your countrymen wrecked havoc around the world trying to control it. What did Vietnam, or South America do to you dumb arse?

Yet you meddle there.

Christians have wiped out or reduced to minor status many races from Red Indian, Aborigines, Maoris, Incas and so forth.

The only sick religion is Christianity and the sickest people are Yankee Americans whoi are too dumb to see past yesterday.

 
At 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dumbo Americans don't fly planes into buildings they drop massive bombs, they supply weapons like cluster bombs to main and kill people as they did to their ally when bombing needlessly Lebanon.

You dummy don't you think that has an effect.

All those Lebanese being killed with US made weapons duh! See the link.

Maybe if you stopped being brought off by lobby groups and took a fair stand then people wouldn't get so pissed of that they feel they need to hit back whatever way they can.

 
At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you not read the poster provided the author and name of the book.

Go spend some cash and buy the book.

It doesn't take a genius to work out they didn't have internet in the early 1900's so look at the book.

Sheesh when will Americans realise not all books are on the internet.

Face it the guy Americans love to quote became Muslim and admitted his translation was poor.

Hey man even the Missionary praises the eloquence of the Koran.

 
At 3:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As far as I am aware, Jews have never intentionally crashed airplanes into buildings in the United States."

Yes they just fired missles at innocent Americans in a Navy ship but hey you don't give a damn about US Servicemen killed for no reason by them.

Man they spy, they buy politicians yet you dumb arses still love them.

How dumb is it to say you are the land of the free yet buy a few politicians and get what you want.

I guess Pollard was a loyal Jewish american was he you idiot.

I guess Jack Abramoff taking money from Red Indians and giving it to occupiers was real American after all you stole land from red Indians.

Birds of a feather and all that.

Carry on the whole world knows what you Americans are like which is why in South America, Central America, Europe, Asia, Africa hate you.

It doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Hell China now owns America so your time is coming then we will see how much loyalty Israel has.

hell already Israel is getting closer to America but you dumb Yanks carry on believing they are your eternal friends.

 
At 3:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

With a name like lawson we know what religion you are from and where your loyalty lies.

 
At 8:57 AM, Blogger Adam Lawson said...

The sick religion is the one in the USA which has wiped out entire races of people.

If Christians are so awful then why are so many Muslims migrating to predominantly Christian countries?

Go spend some cash and buy the book.

If what you say is true about his conversion then there should be links on the Internet about it. I have not been able to find such links and therefore doubt the validity of your claim.

 

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