Thursday, August 10, 2006

Marrying a foreigner in Armenia, especially an African, can cause raised eyebrows

Nune Hakhverdian:

Armenia is a practically mono-ethnic state, with very few instances of mixed marriages, which makes those who do make inter-racial matches stand out all the more.

“I bring up my children in the spirit of Christianity and I tell them that all people are equal, regardless of the colour of their skin and their faith,” said Anna, who lives in Yerevan with her Nigerian husband Michael and their two small sons Joseph and James.

The two dark-skinned boys do suffer racial abuse in their kindergarten or on public transport. “I just get furious when they call my children ‘negroes’,” she said.

“I don’t feel comfortable in Yerevan,” added Michael, who despite owning his own business, an Internet café, wants to take his family away from Armenia to a more multi-racial society.

Despite living in Armenia for nine years, Michael has not integrated well and speaks only a few phrases of Armenian.

Michael and Anna’s was the first marriage officially registered between an African and an Armenian, more than ten years ago and it is still a very rare case in Armenia.

Ethnographer Hranush Kharatian, who heads the Armenian government’s department on national minorities and religious issues, notes that Armenians comprise 97.8 per cent of the population and that they have little experience of interacting with other nationalities.

She also said that an ancient tradition of self-preservation and of fostering national identity in the face of adversity had served Armenia well but carried with it suspicion towards foreigners who wanted to marry ethnic Armenians, both in Armenia itself and in the worldwide diaspora.

Yet this attitude, she said, is prevalent in a society, which suffers from huge migration problems.

I think foreigners in Armenia will definitely encounter problems,” Kharatian went on. “Our state does not have an active immigration policy, there is no discussion of attracting new workers or stimulating population growth. We don’t have gaps in our workforce, on the contrary we don’t have enough jobs.

“A person who has an unusual appearance or whose skin is a different colour tries to lead the life of an ordinary citizen, but the extra attention he gets from society makes his life public property.”

According to official statistics, in the 18 months between January 2005 and the end of June 2006, there were 864 marriages between Armenians and foreigners out of a total of 20,000 unions overall.

I think any of our women who marry blacks are our enemies,” said a middle-aged man with higher education questioned by IWPR on the street in Yerevan. “Armenian blood should not be mix with the blood of blacks. If you marry a foreigner then he should at least be white.”

His view was typical of many ordinary Armenians asked to comment on the issue.

Murtada came to Armenia from Sudan nine years ago as a tourist and married an Armenian named Naira. They live in Yerevan and Murtada, who trained as an economist, works as a driver.

“I’m not concerned by the extra attention that gets paid to us, but I worry about Murtada,” his wife told IWPR. “He is a very sensitive person and he can be insulted by a sideways glance.”

“I can’t hide the colour of my husband’s skin,” she went on, expressing hope that their son Bashir, who speaks Armenian like a native will not suffer from the same problems as his father.

Mira, who is Korean, moved from Moscow to Armenia with her Armenian husband Ashot. She said that the two of them, both artists, had encountered few problems and had had more trouble in Georgia, where they also lived for several years.

Ashot acknowledged that it was easier for his wife, an Asian, to fit into Armenia than for an African to do so. But he said he was worried by the country’s intolerance towards foreigners. “The more developed a country is the better it treats its foreigners. Poorly developed countries put obstacles in the way of foreigners,” he said.

Maybe the Armenians just don't want to see their country suffering the crime problems experienced by other countries with large black populations?

32 Comments:

At 9:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the Armenians just don't want to see their country suffering the crime problems experienced by other countries with large black populations?

Of course if you are talking about the indiscriminate immigration of Blacks, this is no doubt a legitimate concern.

"I think any of our women who marry blacks are our enemies,”said a middle-aged man...

People are free to have an opinion about miscegenation, and to express it if they are asked (or if not). It is not surprising that people are at the least skeptical about it, although the "enemies" language is a little bit heavy. My own opinion is that I do not like seeing it. But I am also usually quick to add that I don't know why anyone should care what my opinion is, especially any two people involved in such a relationship.

 
At 8:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be an irony of life if the Armenians, having survived the Genocide at the hands of the Turks and forestalled Turkification throughout the centuries, were to succumb to the multiracial, multi fornication debauchery which takes place with the march of modernity.

I hope the Armenians will withstand the challenges and remain steadfast to their traditions , identity and history

 
At 9:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Interesting views from Armenians. As a superskeptical African in America, I often wonder how an Armenian, knowing the history with the Turks and the genocide - and even all the other cases of genocide in the world, would even espouse the kinds of thoughts seen in this blog. In the end, I think the deep hatred among many people in the world towards Africans will be the key to our flourishing and survival. "He that seeks to redeem his soul shall loose it", and vice-versa. And ooh,.....did I tell you that my wife is Armenian! Not even God can separate us.

Enjoy yourselves gentlemen.

 
At 3:39 PM, Anonymous Rosco said...

I think the deep hatred among many people in the world towards Africans will be the key to our flourishing and survival

Actually, you people would probably have a better chance of survival if you weren't raping and killing each other so much.

 
At 3:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Roscal, sorry Rosco. In another century or so, my people will number in the billions. Make no mistake, we will survive, and flourish - sucks to hear, yes but we've been here for billions of years. Africans are here to stay. I suggest you try getting along with people - Indians, Chinese, African, whatever. These people will number billions in the years to come my friend, and it is inevitable that we will all interact - on a common good or terrible level. Which one will you want? Roscoe, say hi to you friends for me. Hahahahaha hahahahaha.

 
At 10:34 AM, Anonymous Rosco said...

In another century or so, my people will number in the billions

I think malaria, TB, HIV/AIDS and, of course, black-on-black violence will prevent that from ever happening.

 
At 6:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Ros (allow me to call you that),I offer you a congratulatory salute; you have won the argument. We blacks are to suffer and die a most heinous death of all these agents you talk about - T.B, H.I.V and all that, that will see us extinct. Enuff said (yawn). By the way, how's weather up where you are at? Say hi to the wife for me. Things are great down here. I love fall weather. Check you later budd.

 
At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Rosco said...

We blacks are to suffer and die a most heinous death of all these agents you talk about - T.B, H.I.V and all that, that will see us extinct

Oh, I am sure that blacks will be around in some form or another. It is just that they will be living at a Stone Age level of development which is their natural position in the world.

 
At 5:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi guys, do not insult each other. What to talk about blacks when Armenains do not want to marry even very white and nice -looking Russians and Ukrainiáns.
It is rasism and xenofobia- that what is this society

 
At 1:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

waoh!!! am reading some very scary comments about africans from ppl on here.i used to have a very different perceptive abt armenia ppl due to what my armenia friend make me to belive...i never thought armenia could be this prejudice about other culture and ppl especially blacks...am planning coming to school in armenia and am kind of thing twice nw......pls can some one tell me this is just talk and not happening in reality??

 
At 7:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is all about choice, I personally would never marry an African and see the problems in the UK that they cause, rapes, murders, gangs. They don't want to integrate but just to steal and take from the state. Maybe they should sort out their own country and not polute the world

 
At 12:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to make it clear that Armenians and Africans, especially Ethiopians have had incredibly close relations through the years and the racism seen in modern day Armenia is the result of my stupid people FORGETTING THEIR OWN HISTORY AND THINKING THEY ARE EUROPEANS. LISTEN UP ARMENIANS YOU ARENT EUROPEANS. STOP BEING RACIST. In fact Armenians and Ethiopians were the first inhabitants of Arabia. We formed the Ariba which was composed of the Adites aka Ethiopians and the Amalekites aka Armenians. wake up you clowns and read history books a little bit for gods sake

 
At 5:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you all kidding me......disgusting....we are all God's children. As an Armenian married to a African I thank God everyday for such a good man...BTW all Armenians do not share the views in this artical. Love to you all.

 
At 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The racist comments on this site are disgusting - in reading them I am ashamed to be Armenian. We are all part of the human race and the human race began in Africa. Open your eyes and hearts to the bigger world around you. Oh yes btw Armenians are not European. Once you get on that I am European trip - it shows me you do not who you are.

 
At 10:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You talk about Africans only being as gang members, rape and murder. There are also a lot of wonderful, intelligent, great Africans in the world. Armenian aren't all wonderful people. Armenian lie, cheat, and steal, kill also. So don't judge or talk bad about others when our own people are guilty as well. My boyfriend is African American and I thank God everyday for him. He is an outstanding, god loving man.

 
At 2:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello i am James Dum****.
Just I don't want to put my full ser name.
Do you really know that this fucking blog is speaking about my family and me?
if you want to know how in reality are armenian people I can tell you I lived in armenian 14 yers and now I am in France. My father was a black man and my mother white. Armenians are very racist and antiguar people there mentality will never change. They don't know how to forget the past and live in the present. Know I have 15 yers when I get big I will never - never marri with a white armenian women. Date-05/10/2014

 
At 7:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Do you mean we are not European. We are. And you are getting your facts wrong.

 
At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armenians are one of the first European civilisations.

We speak the earliest form of the European languages.

 
At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People will perish for a lack of knowledge. Learn your history people. Regardless of what color you see on the outside, we are all the same color on the inside. Only uneducated, miserable, and judgmental people have such low standards of thinking...I am not surprised. Not everyone uses their brain to expand their horizons. Oh well.

 
At 12:04 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

But yet Armenians were killed at the hands of white people...

 
At 12:04 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

Beautiful

 
At 12:09 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

You are so ignorant it's sad, you need to do much research, to blame a race that is victim to these diseases? Do you think you're better than another race? Maybe the Turks weren't wrong for the genocide? Does that make sense? For you to be so called Christian your language says otherwise & all those diseases started with white nasty dirty ppl and transferred purposely to harm Africans. & yes eventually every race will be black... Everything mixed with black turns black and then we dominate... Women of all race love black men and men love black women... I mean who doesn't love chocolate... And all those babies will in fact be black... How's that?!

 
At 12:14 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

Natural position is rulers queen & kings ... We are the reason you are here today, you need to learn some respect boy! Lol don't you know any history ? So you aren't aware that we are the first original race you are our son... We give u life... Remember white ppl can do 1 think be pale... But we! We are creators of every color, Armenians don't get their pigment from Caucasians you idiot... They can't even get pigment..

 
At 12:18 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

Jesus was the messiah and he was crucified, judged, abused, lied on, bullied... But Bcs he was the chosen 1. We were created here first to later create you all and are the most hated judge abused... Yet we still remain out numbering so many... You will fear us, you will see, we were only born to love it's all gods plan, a plan that obviously says we are different... So many race in the world and countries yet Africa and all blacks are judged the most... We are chosen... You will see... Just wait we have great purpose like Jesus...

 
At 12:20 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

Right scares me so much my bf is Armenian and I refuse to have a half racist family for my child

 
At 12:22 AM, Blogger Jessica Thompson said...

Thank you

 
At 2:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armenians here in Brazil are called robbers and are equal as gipsies.

 
At 3:21 AM, Blogger Nikke71 said...

Lol these Armenians have no life

 
At 3:51 AM, Blogger Nikke71 said...

The ignorance is beyond appalling,I feel sorry for all these Armenians hating my people. maybe you shouldn't of ran to my country for shelter during the genocide. Back in the biblical days everyone mixed only ignorant fools of the lowest class would open their uneducated mouth to say such a foolish thing. It's funny because it's the same Armenians that marry their own women then sneak out of their house to escape their boring no personality wives to go and have sex with Africans and Mexicans. 😏😏 yeah I said it. I dear anyone to challenge me on that. A lot of Armenian men are too chicken to marry the women they really adore and love because they are not Armenian and they look for the approval through strangers of there race, and family. Most of them are miserable with their boring Armenian wives and some are happy. But I am with an Armenian guy and I love him to death as he does me. We are coming to yerevan, Armenia and I dear these miserable, unhappy, no life so your focuse on mine, shitty life, anti- mixing Armenian to look at me the wrong way with there depressed faces. I know were I come from I am (African/ Nigerian) 🙌 And very proud and blessed to be chosen to be born into this race. I come from a bloodline of kings and queens and no disgusting low class ill mineded person will make me think different. 🙌😘😈

Sincerely unbreakable 💪😏

 
At 4:28 AM, Blogger Nikke71 said...

Get a life hateful miserable fools. I love all races and people and I personally do not put energy into hating those who hate Africans who are (the 1st people/ race), mixing, or any other non sense they want to come up with to avoid and escape their shitty boring lives. News flash your not that important but I guess no one told you that so you keep sharing what you like and don't like and who should marry what race. Unless God himself comes down and says do not mix shut the fuck up pleeaasee...😡 who worries about things that don't concern them losers, boring no personality pig headed arrogant lunatics... Your view bores the world😴😴 please die 😵quietly in the corner in the " I don't have a life pile next to the no one cares what you think pile of useless human beings. Don't dawdle on your way there.

 
At 4:21 PM, Blogger truthlife2014AFRICA said...

Every people should marry their own kind and we cant stop people if they do.The true definition of race has been a LIE based on COLOUR.Race is based on DNA and now we have Dna mapping of the whole whole World.Armernians have same Dna as Ethiopians Sudanese Libyans Somalis etc.Dna haplogroup E1B1B is found in Africa Ethiopians Italy Spain Armenia Kosovo Bosnia Montenegro Croatia and Germany Britain etc.The Africans in sub sahara are Bantu and have different DNA E1B1A same as Black Americans Carribeans etc.Hitler had racial idea but his DNA was not Rb1 like other Germans it was E1b1b same as the Ethiopians.The illuminati Eugenics movement led by Johann Blumenbach and William Friedel Hegel a khazar Jew started this racial ideology of Black white Yellow Red .They found out who the true hebrews of the bible are the blacks of Sub Saharan Africa or Negros.In the bible all people descent from Noah sons Shem Ham Japheth.The ark from the flood is at Mt Ararat in Armenia.I believe people should marry their kind according to Dna which is Real Race to preserve their customs lifestyles hustory culture but who are we to judge those who dont.I live in the Uk at the moment but wont marry any woman who is not from my tribe as i will depart soon iam looking forward to marry back in my country same culture same morals same langauge same understanding.

 
At 2:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahaha! Armenians can be stupid...I'll marry one just to piss the family off...jeez! who do you think you are? Mafia practically runs your country and youre here saying blacks are criminals? nkt! And for HIV? really...every country in this world is a victim, lie to us and say you dont have AIDs in Armenia. Damn, I think the genocide should have wiped all you haters

 

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